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Muslim Women Stand Up For Gender Equality (Unabridged)

OpinionsI am saddened that one of our community members finds herself so embittered as to acrimoniously write the article that was published in the Star Bulletin on Saturday, April 9 th. I have spoken to many of the women in our community regarding this article and there has been much anger expressed at the picture she has painted of our local Masjid and the Islamic community in general. I do not feel anger but rather dismayed by the plight of not only our sister, but that of women in general and the struggle that they have undertaken to find value and worth by striving to be the “same” as men. Therefore, as a multi-generational American woman and a revert to Islam, I am compelled to give another perspective of the “U.S. Muslims Struggle with Gender Issues.”

The article opens with, “Have you ever come to our local Islamic Center in Manoa?” I too extend an invitation to all that would like to visit, but not under the same premise of sister Mona’s article. Although intent can only truly be known by the individual and God, the statement made that Muslim women locally pray in a separate room and follow prayers through closed-circuit television was written to insight anger and to perpetuate the stereotypical oppression and mistreatment of Muslim women. My sister has misled the public by describing the separation of men and women as something demeaning and ugly but I say to you that it is only a matter of perception and how you choose to look at a situation. Our Masjid recently underwent extensive renovations and the outcome is beautiful and what the majority of the women from our community wanted.

During the initial phases of renovation, prior to even the design phase, the community, both men and women, were invited to give input as to how they wanted what little money we could raise to be spent. A priority was given to the women and their comfort. I know this as I attended those meetings. My husband and I had numerous discussions regarding the wishes of the women and what changes they wanted to see made. The ideas were handled with the utmost care and respect and no idea was dismissed, however, for practical purposes not all ideas could be implemented. The process in determining the direction taken for the renovation of the Masjid went through the democratic process and was put to a vote. The women’s voices were heard and an overwhelming majority wanted the separation of men and women for a variety of reasons.

You see, the Masjid in Manoa, as is the situation in all Mosques in the US, is not only a place we gather for worship but also an Islamic Center where we gather for other social community events. As we use the Masjid for a variety of purposes the women voiced their concern that they wanted this space to be comfortable and designed with their needs in mind. The women expressed their desire for privacy as well as functionality. The renovation resulted in two separate rooms for the women – one being primarily for worship and the other for socializing, discussion and education. When women attend the Masjid they want to be able to relax, perhaps take off the Hijab (head scarf), talk freely with other sisters, breast feed their child, etc. As women attend the Masjid not only for prayer but also as a social outlet, to interact with other sisters of the same faith without the governance of men, this floor plan better meets the needs of the sisters that actually do attend the Masjid. It was requested that the women continue to have a separate area from the men to more fully facilitate the free interaction among the women. The floor plan design was a direct result from the input of the sister’s of our community and was not designed as a punishment or power struggle imposed upon us from the brothers of our community.

This brings me back to it all being a matter of perception – whether the glass is half full or half empty. Is this separation one of oppression and control or is it truly one designed out of love and respect for the women in our community and the understanding of the elevation God has given women in Islam. If one is to believe that the separation of men and women is one that was forced upon us by the men in our community, then what we are saying is, that although an overwhelming majority of women voted for this separation, women are feeble minded and are not capable of making a decision such as this for themselves. I have more confidence in the women of our community and acknowledge that they are capable of making such a decision. Unfortunately influence from sources outside of the of our community assists in perpetuating the need to be the “same”. I think if more women truly understood their power as that given to them from God and understand that it comes from within rather than outside ourselves it would be easier for women to flourish in this society. This problem affects not only the Islamic community but rather women’s struggle in this country as a whole.

The resolution of a problem is not to add insult to injury. It was stated in this article that many places of worship, women and men pray together as a single family and it was criticized that this is not how it is in our local Masjid. I don’t view this tradition as a negative one. Prayer is not something that you do as an interaction with those around you; it is something that is sacred between you and God. There is no discussion; there is only a connection between your spirit and your Creator. Islamic prayer is like no other religious prayer in that it is not only vocal but also physical. The prayers require both men and women to put their foreheads to the ground while on one’s hands and knees. This is a position of vulnerability as well as surrender and to perform this properly with complete abandonment to the prayer and it’s intent, one must feel completely safe and without self conscience. I ask, how can this prayer truly be performed with its intended outcome if men must walk by and through the women to get to the front of the room to perform their prayers? This complete separation of men and women during this time of worship is one that allows both genders to focus on the intention of their time at the Masjid. Praying in congregation makes the prayer more powerful, but to be powerful it is not a requirement for men and women to pray alongside one another. By praying separately it allows for less distraction and a deeper more fulfilling connection between God and each individual. This is my understanding of why one would come to the Masjid for prayer in the first place.

The article continues to state that as a woman there is little or no access to the Imam (the religious leader of the community). I beg to differ. Great care has been implemented to ensure that the Imam is available to the women to offer religious study classes, Arabic classes, etc., however, if the women do not take advantage of all that is offered to them then perhaps the blame is misplaced.

I agree that indeed equality for Muslim women in the Masjids is a hot topic among Muslims worldwide. But what is equality? I believe the true problem is in understanding equality and striving towards it. Equality does not mean “the same as”. It means to be of the same value or worth; it does not mean to be identical to. This to me is the height of arrogance. God made us equal but different, why? Who are we to then say that I want to be the “same” as a man? Women must embrace the God given gifts that they have been given, the position they have been elevated to in society and let go of the concept that they must be all that a man is to be of any great consequence or importance. As women we need to learn to trust the position, power and strength that God has given us, to believe in God’s master plan. As women we need to embrace our own spirit and recognize that we are different from men and be grateful for these differences. Women have been elevated to a great place in Islamic society, in the family structure. Women’s roles and responsibilities are not about the cooking, cleaning and laundry of the household but rather about the reality that women hold the key to the heart and soul of the family, of the children. Women are inherent nurturers; this is a God given gift that is often overlooked and undervalued. . It is undervalued not only by the men that we claim oppress us and relegate us to either the back of the room or complete separation but also through our struggle to be the same as a man. We have abandoned and diminished the role which we were intended to fulfill. It is with the permission of God that women have been given the power to mold the values, virtues and education of the children. What an awesome responsibility; what an honor. This is precisely what is meant by the Hadith that Paradise is under the feet of our mothers. We hold their spirits in our hands and so often we fail to recognize our true purpose and calling in this lifetime. I do not want to be the same as a man; I want to derive my power from the gifts that I have been given as a woman from God. I want to strive for the virtues of humility and understand that as stated by Imam Zaid, “Our fulfillment does not lie in our liberation, rather it lies in the conquest of our soul and its base desires…therein lies one of the greatest secrets to unleashing of our real human potential. This is so because it is our human potential that separates us from the rest of this creation, and it is to the extent that we are able to conquer our physical nature that we realize that spiritual potential…When we live for our Lord it becomes easy to live with each other. If in our personal relations we can come to embody the spirit of mutual love, mercy and affection, encouraged by our Prophet, peace and blessing of God be upon him, we will be able to make a beautiful and lasting contribution towards the uplift of men and women alike.”

This is not to say that men have gained the humility that we as Muslims are instructed to strive for nor does it mean that women are no longer oppressed by man, however, this article is not intended to address this struggle. Some men have and continue to mistreat women, but this is not about Islam it is about culture.

There continues to be a trend in the discussion of “conservative” Muslims vs. “moderate” or “progressive” Muslims. I find these terms confusing – Islam does not and should not change to respond to whims, wants or needs, but rather the worshiper should do the changing to conform to the religion of his or her choice.

These points have led up to the main point of the discussion – women leading a mixed-gender congregational prayer and the need to “update” Islam. Islam is complete as prescribed by the Qur’an and the teachings of the Prophet and is not in need of “updating”. I refer you to Imam Zaid’s article posted on the Muslim Association of Hawaii’s website which offers an in depth technical discussion of the history of the Hadith discussed in Sister Mona’s article.

Finally, I don’t think that a woman leading the prayer is a cause for celebration and should not be referred to as a “history making event”. Perhaps more appropriately it should be referred to as a travesty, one that may continue to cause strife in our community. It should not be considered a first step for women to gain equality in our local mosque. I think the first step must be women embracing all that represents being a woman, all that God has given us, the position He has created for us in the Islamic society. Perhaps instead of looking to the men as the cause of our discontent we should instead look within and see why it is we continue to fight amongst ourselves and why we fight so hard against our own nature in our quest to be the same as a man. Let’s celebrate being women and stop trying so hard to be men.

In my experience what women really want is respect and love, to be valued and truly cherished. We attain these virtues by embracing our place in society, not by working to break down the barriers that make men and women different.

Islam is Islam and those that strive to change it, perhaps, should look for a different religion. It is historically and religiously clear that women have never, nor were they ever intended to lead a mixed-gender prayer as is the case of priesthood in the catholic religion. In this struggle to be “equal” are we now going to see women fighting to become the new Pope of the Catholic religion? I sincerely hope not. If there are those that would like to be led in prayer by a women, by all means it’s a free country – form your own religion and make whatever rules you like, however, you forfeit the right to call it Islam.

As it is with anything in life, we can not hear this message until our hearts are sincerely open and when this happens we wonder why we didn’t get it sooner…it is after all a very simple concept.

Respectfully,

Your sister in Islam

Sister Niaama

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As-Salaamu Alaikum

I prefer this version of Sister Niaama's response then the one published. Not just because it was more complete, but because the last part which discusses about those who should look for another religion is developed much more giving us the opportunity to better understand the author's position. In the version put forth for the Honolulu Advertiser, that part was not well developed and came over a bit too harsh for my liking. Not that I don't agree somewhat, but I felt it was just too much to say in the manner it was said. This version was much more eloquent.

I appreciate Sister Niaama's response and I would like to suggest that if there are issue that need to be brought up and you feel the leadership is inaccessible, then at the minimum, post your comments to the forum on this site. InsyaAllah, I will do my best effort to bring the posting to the attention of the leadership. In this manner, the concerns are not aired in public, but discussed openly within the community.

Ma Salaama
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Authored by: Anonymous on Saturday, April 16 2005 @ 02:32 PM HST Muslim Women Stand Up For Gender Equality
<b>What I don't understand is how will the mosque accomodate women who want to pray in the main prayer room.</b> Mona, too has talked to many women and most of them say that little has changed from before; new paint but same problems. Apparently, if you ask only the women who come to the mosque, you will get the answer you want. If you ask the women who do not come because they feel that segrgegation is a form of being unwelcome, you will get another answer. Again, is it not the sunna of the Prophet to pray in the same room with no barrier, women behind the men's jama'ah?? <b>Will the mosque allow women to pray in the main room if they please??</b> ..and such women would leave alone the women who want to pray segregated, as sad as that may be...

A female imam is not the issue for us in Hawaii. Welcoming sisters who currently feel unwelcome IS the primary issue for us. If they feel this way, what is the problem to accomodate them and help them feel comfortable enough to concentrate on prayer? If, indeed, worship is more important, you will do this. If forcing women to conform to a particular culture is the priority, you will try to deprive all women thier sunna right to pray in the same room.
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As-Salaamu Alaikum

Has this issued been raised to the Imam directly by Mona?
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Authored by: Anonymous on Saturday, April 16 2005 @ 05:04 PM HST Muslim Women Stand Up For Gender Equality
*I* am raising it here. Did you not state above about providing a forum for this here?
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Yes, however, that was based upon the stipulation that you were unsucessful in raising the issue with the Imam directly. And it was a question that is rightfully asked?

What's with the anger?
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Authored by: Anonymous on Saturday, April 16 2005 @ 05:17 PM HST Muslim Women Stand Up For Gender Equality
..."Upon the stipulation"?? Huh? Either this is a forum for open discussion or its not. Which is it?
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To quote myself: "I would like to suggest that if there are issue that need to be brought up and you feel the leadership is inaccessible, then at the minimum, post your comments to the forum on this site."

Therefore, it is necessary to ask, have you brought up this issue with the Imam directly. If I am to go to the Imam, I should know this ahead of time before I ask him about this matter.

This is an open forum so therefore, you need to have an open mind.
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As-Salaamu Alaikum

I wanted to call attention to the two forums to discuss Women issues that were setup some time ago but have not been used much. This is a good area to discuss issues that have been raised in the comments area. I have conveniently linked them from the Female Imam Issue Block on the left hand column. They and other forums can also be linked to from the Forum link in the top navigation bar.
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I am still waiting on the answer whether or not if you have addressed this issue with the Imam directly or not. If this is not answered, I will assume that this subject is no longer important to you and that your previous comments were meant only for the sake of rhetoric and not for purposes of driving substantial address of concerns.
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Authored by: Anonymous on Sunday, April 17 2005 @ 07:09 PM HST Muslim Women Stand Up For Gender Equality
If you valued anything other people had to say, you would raise it with him yourself. you are the one who wants to raise the issue, I'm merely voicing my dissatisfaction with the status quo. I have no expectation of change; you're stalling tactics simply reinforce my impressions and those of the many who will not come to the mosque due to a refusal to address people's issues...
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Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, April 18 2005 @ 02:24 AM HST Muslim Women Stand Up For Gender Equality
As-Salaamu Alaikum,

I too wonder the same. I think that women should be allowed a separate prayer room for their use and have the ability to feel safe and comfortable. However, I don't see this as being compulsory, rather an option which women can exercise. If a woman wants to pray in the main hall, she shall be allowed.

Putting women into a safety box cause men can not control their urges or wondering minds is no excuse. It is upon US as men, who need to check our selves and consider our actions and feelings and not put the responsibility onto the target of our feelings as they have no control nor responsibility for it. Take responsibility for yourselves and be smart.

If women are allowed into the most holy of places to pray along side their families, then they shall too be allowed in the most modest of places of prayer, without issue.

For any poll to be truly accurate in regards to this issue on how the women feel, only a poll that reaches ALL Muslims within our state, or at least our island. Those who participate regular may only reflect a segment of our community, which actually may be a minority.

-Shaqeel
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You are just lost. I have been arguing that I have no issue raised. You state that no one can talk to the leadership. So, I put out an offer that if someone is unable to talk to the leadership, then post it here and I will attempt to proxy for them. However, the only thing I ask, is that someone tries. When I asked if you tried, you tell me that you wouldn't waste your time trying. So, why should I then? Again, it just tells me you really don't care. What you care about is griping...
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As-Salaamu Alaikum Shaqeel,

Excellent point. The only way to poll all the ladies effectively though is to have some kind of registered database so as you know who has been asked and who hasn't. A membership to the MAH is available in which people are registered and such surveys/votes could later be taken from even if they do not show at the Masjid. One of the main intentions of this site is to reach out to those who do not make it to the Masjid.

Regarding your opinion about the Main Prayer Hall. Those who choose to exercise that option do. I have prayed next to a woman in Makkah and pray next to my wife often. I feel this issue should be put forward to the Imam who can effectively address it. However, at the same token, if there is only one or two women who want this, we will be going through a lot of effort just for one or two. Therefore, if there are more women who want this, they need to speak up. For the most part, through my informal channels through my wife, all not most are happy and prefer the setup as it is now.
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Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, April 18 2005 @ 03:49 AM HST Muslim Women Stand Up For Gender Equality
you do not know if it is only 1 or 2 women. Thier number does not matter, since it involves no physical or financial effort on the part of the mosque to say "All Muslims have the right to pray in the main room" or *choose* not to be segregated. This issue is fundamentally about CHOICE, not about some women choosing segregation for the others. Your bias is very clear; you need to know that what you believe is not being reflected by *everyone*. A measure of a community is how they deal with dissent and the needs of any single individual. You talk about praying with your wife, but then proceed to try to negate this by stating that ALL of the women are ok with the situation and that its not worth it for the hypothetical number of "1 or 2", which is obviously not true.
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I already addressed your concerns personally. The only issue I have so far is that YOU HAVE NOT goen to the Imam. So there is no issue for the community to address when you have not addressed the leadership! Your BIAS is clear. You just want to create strife without making effort. So get in the car, drive to the Masjid, and talk to the Imam. He is waiting for you to come.
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Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, April 18 2005 @ 08:58 AM HST Muslim Women Stand Up For Gender Equality
I don't have to do anything you tell me. If the imam reads this website, its enough gor me. I do not intend to be lectured about "the errors of my ways" in person. He can voice his opinion here. This is such a transparent attempt at control. Earlier you mentioned the niceness of the bathrooms, as if bathrooms make up the totality of a person's experience in the mosque; absurd! You've already made up your mind and are unwilling to deal with dissent.

Schofield Musalla is enough for me, where brothers and sisters are treated as equals in *one* community, and no one is made to feel unwelcome.
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As-Salaamu Alaikum

If you are unwilling to make effort to address your concerns with the Imam and are happy enough to go the Schofield Masalla (I was hoping I would see you there the other day), then you should exercise common decency and keep the matters to yourself. Otherwise, if you are not part of the solution then you are part of the problem. I feel for all of your vocalness, your effort has been in vain and so has mine. I had hoped I could convnce you that you should come to the Masjid and voice your opinions. I had the same hoped when I urged you and helped you to become a part of the Executive Committee. Each time you have shirked away from the opportunity and I am sorely disappointed. May Allah Bless and Guide You.
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Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, April 19 2005 @ 01:52 AM HST Muslim Women Stand Up For Gender Equality
As-Salaamu Alaikum,

With all due respect brother, your dismissing an important issue because a member doesn't want to confront the Imam in person is completely unfair. How does that invalidate the issue that MANY share? My wife personally will not go to the Masjid any longer cause of these issues. I know your response will be to come down and speak with the Imam. Unfortunately, just as the other user in this thread, we do not feel comfortable bringing up these issues in person and is why this forum is very helpful and valid cause it is for those who maybe are not comfortable voicing their opinions in person.

When you are on the side of the status quo it is easy to sit back and say that any issues can be addressed in an upfront manor and you can quote who many before us including the Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) confronted adversity first hand to enact change, but the reality is, that when you are on the other side, bringing attention to yourself in such a small community has its consequences, especially if those in power don't agree. It is exactly that which makes this forum useful and powerful in itself.

If you say the Imam reads these forums or you keep him informed about the discussions on here, that is enough for me. He can not turn a blind eye to the minority (or maybe the majority actually) that are unhappy with the status quo and do not attend service any longer. The beauty of Islam is that it can be practiced in the home, as a family, together, praying side by side.

Peace to all...

-Shaqeel
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As-Salaamu Alaikum

Is it fair to say that if you are uncomfortable to speak to the Imam in person that is is ok than to write an article and submit it to the local newspaper for non-Muslims to read saying that the Imam is unapproachable and that the community keeps the women in another area against their will?

I am sorry, but I am sure your wife has not been prevented by the Imam from praying in the main hall. I am also pretty sure that the issues that prevent her from coming to the Masjid is more about the issues she has with other women than with the Imam or men. If I am wrong on that, do let me know. That has been my experience that other women within the Masjid are too blame for women shying away from coming.

Finally, I would like to say, that anyone who feels slighted, should have some courage to say something and that finally as the husband of your wife, you are her protector and should immediately address issues that come up with the Imam so that he can address him. I have seen him directly address issues to the congregation time and time again. This Imam, is not afraid to do the right thing and so you should too be not afraid.



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As-Salaamu Alaikum

In case my other comment missed the mark, my biggest concern with the brother, is that he did not use this forum to first bring up this issue. He let his wife write an article to the newspaper to bring up the issue. Was that right?

Also, when I asked him point blank if he has discussed this with the Imam, I too think that he should have been direct and said, I am sorry but I feel uncomfortable in doing that in stead of hemming and hawwing and then finally attacking me for suggesting him to do something in person.
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Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, April 19 2005 @ 12:11 PM HST Muslim Women Stand Up For Gender Equality
No one owns the mosques. If I raise an objection to something, I have every right as a Muslim and an American to both praise and criticize. Keeping it to myself allows an injustice to continue. That's simply another way to avoid criticism and hope everything stays quiet since people are unwilling to consider alternatives.
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Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, April 19 2005 @ 12:15 PM HST Muslim Women Stand Up For Gender Equality
...I "let" my wife?! Maybe I am the exception among Muslims who does not control women with harshness. My wife was given an opportunity to comment on the female imam issue and there can be absolutely NO just and Islamic reason that I would suppress her god-given right to free expression. See, another way that segregation really does putr it into peoples' minds that Muslim women are to be submissive to the men...as if us men have to approve what Muslim women write!
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Effectively Omar, you have been keeping your opinions to yourself. In fact, that has been my complaint about you. I will restate my point differently. Over time, you have chosen NOT to raise issues about the Mosque within the Mosque. Recently, your wife who choose somewhat to take the same path as yours in regards to voicing her opinion, decided to broadcast her opinion within a public forum non-specific to the Muslim community. In other words, she decided to make a gripe to a people who had nothing to do with the gripe. That is primarily where the argument is, not necessarily with the nature of the argument. In other words, there is no argument about whether or not a woman can pray in the same room as a man, because this is already made clear by the Prophet's sunnah. The argument is that your wife and you did not provide the community the courtesy of addressing your concerns directly to the community.

Omar, do you get now why everyone is so upset? We love you, we just hate that you want to complain to people who are not in our community but turn your backs to those who are in your community. To make matters worse, you are not even entirely honest in your complaint, most likely because your informaiton is incomplete or outdated or biased.
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Did you prevent her? No, you didn't. Therefore you let her. During this entire discussion, you have not indicated that you disagreed with your wife or advised her against her actions. If you do not advise your wife one way or another that is your business, but my wife advises me and I advise her. I did not say you granted permission or denied permission. The word let means to provide an opportunity. And most certainly, you have afforded your wife an opportunity to voice her opinion.
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Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, April 19 2005 @ 04:11 PM HST Muslim Women Stand Up For Gender Equality
Communications between a husband and wife are no one's business!

*Why in the world would would I prevent my wife from expressing herself??!!* ...it would be un-islamic to an extreme! There is no reason in the world I would dream of oppressing her like that!

This is really starting to sound like people simply don't like women expressing themselves in public.
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Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, April 19 2005 @ 04:26 PM HST Muslim Women Stand Up For Gender Equality
Yes, I've kept my opinions to myself for several years now, actually. Its a result of seeing how closedminded people were and I really did not relish the prospect of being shouted down like others had been. But, I have raised similar concerns about the mindset of the community before Ismail came, mostly about the said closedmindedness and fractitous nature of our "community". Responses ranged from indifference, unreceptiveness to your infamous "do it yourself if you don't like it then"... and that was simply to the people who I beleived to be sypathetic to my concerns. Mona has talked to many people about the very poor women's experience there and has found many who agree but few who will help enact change. With the powers that be and even those who agree unwilling to act, then what? We get shouted down, ostracized and ignored by people. As it was, people, other than you and the chaplain never invited us to thier homes, despite our hostings of many family fun days and Eid dinners, at our own relatively high expense. All the above indicated a fair lack of committment in this "community" and thus the return would not equal the risk, especially given our assessment that we would be alone in this.

I beleive perhaps the publicity, for you at least, is what has upset you; I'm willing to take you at face value on that. But, others will use this point as a stick to beat us with and thier core disagreement is treating women as equals. Why, do tell me, are no other women serving the whole community publicy? Why do you criticize Mona for her failed bid for a board seat (which she gave up after extremely harsh criticism from our foreign sisters), and not nominate a woman yourself? If you HAVE, do tell. Why, in the past did we elect a women's board, in effct creating a parallel community? Women will always be left behind and treated by many Muslims as second class so long as segregation is the norm and not the exception. Bold steps in New York has galvanized the issue and is getting these issues into discussion as never before. The glacial pace of change, if even there was any, apparently is not bearing fruit as women come to the mosque looking for a supporting community, and instead leave wondering why they became Muslim (I have in mind a particular person)? Instead of blasting us for our going public, be a part of change, if indeed you are sincere about it, or explain your committment to the glacial pace...
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Omar, as you know, I do not toot my own horn. For example, you will find it very difficult to find my name on this site. In fact, many people who read this site often, probably do not know who I am. I like it that way. This site is not about me, it is about doing something for the community. In that vein, I would like to say that I do not announce personally the efforts I am undertaking. I also do not usually write an expose' on what others are doing. Therefore, there is no mention about the lead the women are taking in several areas of the Masjid affairs right now. For example, the maintenance of the Masjid is being handled 100% by the women with some help by some brothers (don't want to slight them). Also, the school could not function without the women not only for their teaching roles, but the leadership they have shown in organizing curriculum and overall in making the program happen. The principal is a man, but behind him is his wife who is coordinating a LOT of the aspects and mashaAllah, doing a superb job. They are a model husband and wife team and I just love them!

Overall, your remarks are severely outdated as the community has evolved TREMENDOUSLY since you used to come regularly. Even those people specifically who you may have a picture in your mind for being boisterous, have changed.

Of course, there may be a few women who have issues (and men for that matter). However, these issues may actually be something else. Wa Allahu Alim. So, if there is a particular sister (or brother) having an issue, we should be made aware of it so we can assist her and address her nissues. And let me say, let's try to do it offline before we do something online and most defintely before we publish something in the newspaper for the World to see. If you respect this community, you must respect out dignity. As our Sister Khadija said in another post, how can the leadership be blamed for not being mind readers!
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